What fun!

Friday, 26 December 2014 23:52
strange_complex: (Claudia Cardinale car)
[personal profile] strange_complex
What fun it is when you're driving along the motorway, and you can't tell whether or not you are properly in a lane because you can't see the white lines under all the snow!

What fun to discover that when you try to correct your position, the car starts skidding!

And to realise that all of the other drivers around you have no more control over their cars than you do!

And to gradually see the illuminated signs which are telling you that there are hazardous driving conditions and that a temporary speed limit of 40mph is in force disappearing behind a coating of snow!

And when what would normally be a 2h15m journey takes closer to 4 hours because even 40mph is in fact way too fast in weather like that, so that you have to do most of it at more like 20-30 miles an hour.

And seeing at least 15 vehicles at the side of the road with their hazard flashers on during that time, only one of which was being attended to by a repair van, and three of which were in actively dangerous positions.

And driving past an articulated lorry which had jack-knifed across all four lanes of the opposite carriage-way, complete with a van and a car smashed into the side of it.

What fun!

I'm glad to say I am safely back home in Leeds now, but that was easily the worst drive I have ever done. I very definitely wouldn't have set off if I'd had the faintest idea it would get that bad, but Birmingham was merely slushy, with the snow that had fallen earlier in the evening actively melting; and weather reports had told me the same was true in Leeds, which was perfectly accurate. It was just everything in between that was the problem - and by the time I discovered that, it was way too late...

Update: obviously I couldn't take a picture, as I was driving, but this person did:


They were clearly heading in the opposite direction to me, and didn't know yet about the jack-knifed lorry causing the jam. Just horrible, all round.

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Date: Saturday, 27 December 2014 00:05 (UTC)
From: [personal profile] cosmolinguist
I'm very familiar with this kind of driving, it happens here a lot and is the most stressful situation to drive in I'm glad it's done and you can relax now!

Date: Saturday, 27 December 2014 00:15 (UTC)
ext_550458: (Anas Penelope)
From: [identity profile] strange-complex.livejournal.com
Poor you! I have driven in snow before, but never anything like that bad. It's exactly the sort of weather which tends to feature in news reports about hundreds of people getting stuck in their cars on the motorway. I've always had thoughts when watching those reports before such as "Well, why did you all set off in it, then?", but I will be kinder and more charitable in future, now that I know how it can happen.

Date: Saturday, 27 December 2014 00:22 (UTC)
From: [personal profile] cosmolinguist
Yeah, it's definitely easy to drive into such things. I grew up among people who pay such meticulous attention to the weather that I know the differences between places sometimes only a few miles apart can be drastic. And as you say, once you get started, it's usually better to keep going, but even the best option isn't always very good.

Date: Saturday, 27 December 2014 00:42 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pseudomonas.livejournal.com
Eep. That sounds most unpleasant. Very glad you're home in one piece.

Date: Saturday, 27 December 2014 12:52 (UTC)
ext_550458: (Redneck damn toot!)
From: [identity profile] strange-complex.livejournal.com
Thanks - me too, I can tell you!

Date: Saturday, 27 December 2014 01:00 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] parrot-knight.livejournal.com
Thankfully the snow hasn't got this far north. I'm sure we used to be better at dealing with this sort of weather.

Date: Saturday, 27 December 2014 12:51 (UTC)
ext_550458: (Amelia Rumford archaeologist)
From: [identity profile] strange-complex.livejournal.com
I'm sure we used to be better at dealing with this sort of weather.

Hmm, I'm not convinced. I suspect that idea is a 'Blitz spirit'-style myth, and probably a dangerous one too, if it encourages people to try and carry on regardless when the conditions don't allow for it.

Date: Saturday, 27 December 2014 13:03 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] parrot-knight.livejournal.com
I don't see it as a Blitz spirit myth. While heavy snow always brought infrastructure to a standstill, ISTR more snowploughs clearing roads in the north when I was a boy, and complaints more recently that the machinery once available to resolve blockages is no longer present.

Date: Saturday, 27 December 2014 13:44 (UTC)
ext_550458: (Twiggy)
From: [identity profile] strange-complex.livejournal.com
But people seem to expect now that the snow should be cleared the instant it lands, which could never have been the case, surely. I think it's easy to remember the clearing and forget the hours of blockage beforehand when looking back retrospectively. Certainly, I know from my Mum, who lived on a dairy farm in the Midlands in the 1960s, that there were snowy winters when the milk lorry could not get to their farm to collect their milk, which obviously was a pretty massive problem for them as it meant lost income from selling it - hence her remembering it so clearly.

Date: Saturday, 27 December 2014 13:50 (UTC)

Date: Saturday, 27 December 2014 08:55 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] steepholm.livejournal.com
I had know idea any of this was happening! (It's a different story in Hampshire.)

Date: Saturday, 27 December 2014 12:54 (UTC)
ext_550458: (Tacitus on Brit weather)
From: [identity profile] strange-complex.livejournal.com
That was the treacherous thing, I think. If I'd stayed the night in Birmingham, as I briefly considered doing, I might never have known what I'd escaped. But the weather conditions seemed so trivial when I set off, that I was quite sure I would be fine. And after all, the motorways are always clear, aren't they, because of all the traffic? Hah! I know better now.

Date: Saturday, 27 December 2014 09:26 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-lady-lily.livejournal.com
Oh good grief. I'd picked up about the flurries in Birmingham, but had no idea it was getting that heavy further out from the cities. Very glad to hear you made it home in one piece, and hope your plans don't take you far from the sofa today!

Date: Saturday, 27 December 2014 12:59 (UTC)
ext_550458: (Chrestomanci slacking in style)
From: [identity profile] strange-complex.livejournal.com
It seems like the epicentre of it all was Sheffield and the Peak District, which unfortunately was exactly what I had to pass through to get home. Ludicrously, the snow all disappeared just as I came into Leeds, giving way to wintry rain, so that I'd never have known how bad it was in between if I'd been here all evening either.

Oh, and yes, I am firmly ensconced on my sofa now, and with no more taxing plans than what combination of Doctor Who, Hammer Horror and Dracula adaptations I will soak up for the rest of the day. :-)

Date: Saturday, 27 December 2014 09:49 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] huskyteer.livejournal.com
Jeepers. Well done! Hope you enjoyed a well-deserved drink when you got in!

Date: Saturday, 27 December 2014 13:00 (UTC)
ext_550458: (Cocoa beans)
From: [identity profile] strange-complex.livejournal.com
Thankfully, I had been sent home complete with a microwaveable M&S brandy hot chocolate, which was EXACTLY what I needed to warm up and wind down when I finally got here. :-)

Date: Saturday, 27 December 2014 18:04 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] huskyteer.livejournal.com
Ooh, that sounds perfect!

Date: Saturday, 27 December 2014 12:24 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] venta.livejournal.com

Yikes, that sounds awful! So glad you got home without mishap.


We're about to start the drive south down the M1. It looks ok at the moment, hope it stays that way!

Date: Saturday, 27 December 2014 13:03 (UTC)
ext_550458: (Fortuna coin)
From: [identity profile] strange-complex.livejournal.com
It really was! Definitely a journey I feel I got away with, more than anything else.

Seriously, comb the weather and traffic reports in fine detail before you set off, and make sure you're all topped up with supplies, screen-wiper etc just in case. Good luck!

Date: Saturday, 27 December 2014 14:27 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] goddessofchaos.livejournal.com
I hate driving in snow and ice =/ I've had a lot of practice at it over the years, but it doesn't get any more pleasant.

Date: Saturday, 27 December 2014 14:32 (UTC)
ext_550458: (Lord S not unenlightened)
From: [identity profile] strange-complex.livejournal.com
Yes, I suppose you must have done, given where you live. Do you find it's worth putting snow tyres on your car, or is the snow not frequent enough even where you are to make it worthwhile?

Date: Sunday, 4 January 2015 19:25 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] goddessofchaos.livejournal.com
A lot of people round here do, but mostly those who have to drive on smaller country roads. I don't tend to drive out of town much in winter, so I don't find it worthwhile.

Date: Saturday, 27 December 2014 15:54 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thanatos-kalos.livejournal.com
::hugs:: I grew up in the snow belt & even there everyone somehow forgets how to drive in snow and ice. I'm glad you got home safe!

Quick tips on snow driving, though-- I know your instinct is to grip the wheel as tight as you can, but that's actually the worst thing to do, esp if you're in a skid. Keep a loose grip on the wheel so you can move your hands easily to compensate for any skidding AND so that, if you do jump or start when a skid begins, you won't yank on the wheel uncontrolledly which will just make matters worse. Also, try to weigh down the car so it's harder to skid or be blown off the road by high winds-- I used to carry sandbags or big bags of kitty litter or traction sand so that I could get out of parking spots as well. Also, and I know this sounds even weirder, if it's a road you drive a lot, or somewhere that you need to turn off, when the weather is good count power poles or something similar that won't move but will be visible in all but the absolute whiteout conditions. That's got me home more often than I can say. Sadly there's not much I can offer in terms of trying to sort which lane you're in-- I wish you Brits salted better!-- but try to memorise how anything that overhangs a junction looks from whatever lane you want to be in, and use that compared to how it looks when you're driving to estimate if you're even close.

Date: Saturday, 27 December 2014 16:58 (UTC)
ext_550458: (All roads lead to Rome)
From: [identity profile] strange-complex.livejournal.com
TBH, my main strategy for coping with snow when driving in the UK is just not to do it, which works absolutely fine 99.9% of the time, as we usually don't get enough for that to become a problem. I would very definitely have applied that strategy yesterday as well if I'd realised it was needed!

Date: Saturday, 27 December 2014 17:05 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thanatos-kalos.livejournal.com
::g:: Staying home is a good strategy too. :)

Date: Saturday, 27 December 2014 16:06 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kissmeforlonger.livejournal.com
Scary stuff! Glad you're safe.

Date: Saturday, 27 December 2014 16:59 (UTC)

Date: Sunday, 28 December 2014 21:30 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wig.livejournal.com
I had a pretty tense time driving down from Leeds to Birmingham yesterday. Like you, I had been unaware of the road conditions - fortunately a lot of the snow had been cleared off at least the two slower lanes on the motorway. It got trickier once I got off the motorway.

Date: Sunday, 28 December 2014 21:51 (UTC)
ext_550458: (Penelope Pitstop)
From: [identity profile] strange-complex.livejournal.com
Commiserations! :-( I hope you won't have to drive again until it's all gone.

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