strange_complex: (Claudius god)
[personal profile] strange_complex
So Gordon Brown is concerned that the union between England and Scotland is under threat.

What do you think?

[Poll #905956]

Sorry - there are no snowflakes here.

Date: Saturday, 13 January 2007 11:25 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com
Brown is bothered because a break-up of the Union would scupper his political ambitions. So I'll vote for separation, just to see the look on his face.

Date: Saturday, 13 January 2007 12:35 (UTC)
ext_550458: (Cleo wink)
From: [identity profile] strange-complex.livejournal.com
That seems a very dramatic gesture, just to annoy Gordon Brown!

Date: Saturday, 13 January 2007 12:44 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com
'Fraid I can't stand the man.

Date: Saturday, 13 January 2007 13:08 (UTC)
innerbrat: (opinion)
From: [personal profile] innerbrat
I voted for what I want, not what I think will happen. Although I'm not happy right now that MSPs get to vote on England-only matters.

Date: Saturday, 13 January 2007 13:41 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sashajwolf.livejournal.com
I think you mean Westminster MPs from Scottish constituencies?

Date: Saturday, 13 January 2007 13:51 (UTC)
innerbrat: (london)
From: [personal profile] innerbrat
Very probably.

Still bitter about the top-up fees fiasco.

Date: Saturday, 13 January 2007 13:46 (UTC)
ext_550458: (Obelix boar)
From: [identity profile] strange-complex.livejournal.com
I voted for what I want, not what I think will happen

No problem - that's exactly what I was asking about.

Date: Saturday, 13 January 2007 13:10 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ex-lark-asc.livejournal.com
I've got no idea what useful purpose it would serve to be an independent sovereign nation as small as *any* subpart of the UK...

Date: Saturday, 13 January 2007 13:48 (UTC)
ext_550458: (Rick's Cafe)
From: [identity profile] strange-complex.livejournal.com
Me neither. I'm also, as a general principle, more interested in seeing nations establishing formal modes of cooperation than undoing them. But I'm interested to hear what others think.

Date: Saturday, 13 January 2007 14:02 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pickwick.livejournal.com
Well, there are plenty of other small sovereign nations out there who do fine.

I'm also more interested in seeing nations cooperate, and I'd expect Scotland to cooperate in Europe far more readily than Britain does, which is one reason I vaguely support independence. And Scotland would cooperate with people other than America, which would be nice :)

But as I said on someone else's journal the other day, the main reason I'll vote for independence in a referendum just now is because it seems the only way of not having London's nuclear weapons on my doorstep for the next 100 years.

Date: Saturday, 13 January 2007 14:26 (UTC)
ext_550458: (C J Cregg)
From: [identity profile] strange-complex.livejournal.com
Hee, yeah - that's a pretty good reason. But it does leave those people in England who'd rather not have the weapons renewed, or cooperate with America so much, up the swanee! From our point of view, it would be better to keep hold of as many people as possible who feel the same way, in Scotland or wherever, to try to make sure the perspective carries some weight.

Date: Saturday, 13 January 2007 14:29 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pickwick.livejournal.com
Yeah, true. I can't even imagine how much weight it would need to make NuLab actually paid any attention to people, though... There were a bunch of Scottish, Welsh and European politicians arrested at a Faslane demo the other week, and as far as I know it didn't even hit the national press.

Date: Saturday, 13 January 2007 14:04 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nyecamden.livejournal.com
I don't really care, it's up to the Scottish. I'd rather not have to have a passport when visiting parts of Britain (the island) as I don't own one, but that's not a major deal.

I'd quite like London to be a city state (probably just in the fantasy land of Nye), but that's another matter.

Date: Saturday, 13 January 2007 17:17 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] qatsi.livejournal.com
You really need an option for "I don't care".

Date: Saturday, 13 January 2007 17:32 (UTC)
ext_550458: (Devil Girl)
From: [identity profile] strange-complex.livejournal.com
There is an option for 'I don't care' - don't vote! ;)

Date: Saturday, 13 January 2007 19:03 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mr-tom.livejournal.com
[X] Once we've had all the North Sea oil and gas, they can have the land back.

Date: Saturday, 13 January 2007 19:40 (UTC)
diffrentcolours: (Default)
From: [personal profile] diffrentcolours
In a way I'd like to see separation, because I believe that devolution of power from Westminster is almost always a good thing. I'm not sure that it'd be in either England or Scotland's economic or social interests to do so.

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